Episode 97 - What You Know with Heidi Allsop
Episode 97 - What You Know with Heidi Allsop
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This week on the podcast, I am sharing my conversation with fellow life coach and friend, Heidi Allsop.
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Heidi helps Moms save their relationship with their son, so they can worry less and enjoy him more. With a Bachelor's degree in Social Work, Life Coach Certification, and 28 years of experience raising her own 5 sons, Heidi is uniquely qualified to help moms raise resilient, happy sons.
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So you can be prepared for what's coming now on to this week's episode.
So I'm really excited for this week's episode.
I am going to be sharing an interview that I recently had with my friend Heidi Alsup.
She is a life coach and we have crossed paths over the last couple of years.
But recently we've been able to connect a little bit more one on one.
So it's been really fun to get to know her.
And we have a similar passion of getting this work out to as many people as possible to help them create a life.
They love to find joy in the journey and to take control and responsibility of their life experience and make it a beautiful one.
Heidi helps mom save their relationships with their sons so that they can worry less and enjoy them more with a bachelor's degree in social work,
life coach certification and 28 years of experience raising her own five sons.
Heidi is uniquely qualified to help moms raise resilient happy sons.
So here is my conversation with Heidi.
So I'm going to turn the time over to Heidi to let her introduce herself and tell us a little bit about her and also how she came into coaching.
So Heidi checked away.
Perfect.
Ok.
So,
so glad to be here,
Jill,
thank you for having me and thank you for like this platform and what you do.
I'm I'm season like I have some of my kids that are married and have left and I have one still at home and it is a transition and so so grateful for,
for what you do and the service you provide.
And so thank you for having me.
I'm so glad I yes,
so like Jill said,
my name is Heidi also and I um I'm a social worker by education,
as well as a life coach like Jill said,
and more important,
I'm a wife and a mom to five sons and my oldest is 29.
My youngest just turned 16.
So I really am at that mid season where I'm doing adult sons and also,
uh,
a teenager and daughter in laws and one granddaughter.
So I,
uh,
I noticed our kids are big sports players and I noticed there,
I,
I paid attention,
they,
they love to play sports and I paid attention to the way that the coach was coaching the kids in the game and how he wasn't,
he wasn't,
he didn't go in and play for them,
but he was telling them how they could be better.
And so years ago when I started hearing about life coaching,
it was intriguing to me because I love that concept.
And so I started searching out and,
and listening to different life coaches and,
and love the way that life coaches help people move forward to take people who are really functioning well,
but help them get to the next step.
And,
and that was so fascinating and so impactful to me that,
uh,
that I,
I could move forward,
I could accomplish anything that I wanted to,
I could manage my mind.
I could start sleeping at night because,
you know,
five teenage boys,
you just,
you worry about everything and,
and I really could start managing my mind in a different way and it was life changing for me.
And so that's how I got into life coaching,
decided to be certified and,
and it has been one of the best decisions ever.
So,
uh the people that I serve of course,
are going to have to do with,
with boys because I love boys and I'm so entrenched in boys.
And,
um,
and so I've over the course of time and the hundreds of boys that came in and out of our house over the past 25 years,
I noticed that,
that moms,
they really,
they think that they are doing a terrible job if they can't figure out how to help their son,
if he's struggling or if they don't really connect very well with him,
we really take it personal and we struggle with that.
So,
so what I do is I help moms mend or save their relationship with their sons and,
and so they know how to help their sons move forward so that they can move forward and really enjoy that relationship.
We deserve to enjoy and have fun with these sons.
And so,
so that's what I do now,
that's I love that.
Do you find that your education as a social worker?
And as you brought in coaching,
how,
how did that come together?
Like,
what have you found as a benefit to having that experience?
Well,
II,
I think that one of the things that really helped me with the social work degree and working in the social work field is um everybody's trying,
everybody really is doing their best and everybody's best looks a little different.
But um the social work side kind of gives,
gives me a little bit of a uh a view into um the impact of so like um generational trauma and generational um struggling and suffering and,
and how that really does play out generationally and,
and I love that um that side of helping people.
And I also love the fact that we can,
we can,
we can choose the life we want regardless of our past.
And I just love that concept so much.
And so to be able to marry the social work and the life coaching has been just a really a gift for me and helping my mental health and also the mental health of,
of people that I love.
Yeah,
I love that.
I love that.
What do you think it is because I think you're spot on as mothers.
It's almost like we were programmed in a weird way to believe we're not doing it good enough as a mom.
Like I,
is it the,
the way we view the responsibility?
Is it like,
what is it?
Do you think that it seems like every mom I talk to as well?
Like it's,
there's just this view of I didn't do it good enough,
especially in the stage I am at right.
Like kids have left the house and they're starting to choose for themselves in a whole different way.
And so it's so easy to go.
Yeah.
If I would have then this would be different.
Why do we do that,
do you think?
Well,
I spend a lot of time wondering that myself and I think the word you used easy is even though it makes,
it feels terrible,
it's easier for us to blame ourselves than to put that responsibility on our child.
Yeah.
And it's just a lot easier for us to say it must have been me.
I,
I could have done this.
I should have done this and really not look at what we did well and,
and it's just easier.
I just think it's our default.
It's our brain going to the negative and it's our default.
But if we can override that,
then we show up so much better in the relationship,
we show up so much better for ourselves,
we become stronger and then those boys lean on our faith,
our confidence as they're struggling and it usually,
they usually rise to the confidence level that we portray.
So we don't want to take the easy way out on this one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love having a little bit of work.
Yeah,
because so many times I found with,
with clients I work with and even myself in the beginning as I began doing my own work,
right?
Is sometimes the easiest thing is the worst thing.
Most of the time.
The easy thing isn't the thing that helps us.
Right.
It,
we find ourselves doing the easy thing even though it's painful.
But,
you know,
and it just,
yeah,
it circulates the,
the,
the experience.
Right?
You feel ter,
you,
you do the easy thing,
it feels terrible and you're not showing up.
Well,
which kind of makes it so that you feel terrible again.
And we just keep circling,
kind of circling the drain and with just a little bit it's not as hard as our brain wants us to think it is to get out of that cycle and it's so much better.
Yeah.
That's such a good point.
It's like it seems harder to do it differently,
but in actuality it isn't that much harder.
It's intentional.
That's the difference.
Right.
Being more intentional and deliberate rather than just operating by what we've always done.
That's,
that's really the difference.
Yeah.
So,
as you work with these mothers who are questioning if they've done enough or if they're good enough.
Um,
what do you work with them on or how,
what do you help them?
What do you hope they take away from their time with you?
Yeah.
Well,
one of the things that I'm seeing right now with my clients especially is they'll come to me and say,
I,
I just don't know what to do.
I don't know,
I don't know how to help him make better decisions.
I don't know how to mother,
a young adult.
I don't know what to do with him.
Now that he's home from his mission.
I don't know how to act around his girlfriend or his wife.
And I don't even know if they want me around.
Like there's so many,
I don't know which once again is,
that's the easy thing.
It's so easy to go there.
And,
um,
and,
and the problem is then you,
you're feeling insecure,
you're feeling helpless and then you,
we search out things,
right?
We start asking people,
we ask our family and our friends,
what,
what,
what should I do?
What should I do?
We read the books,
we follow influencers,
which,
which is,
is wonderful.
But when we do that,
we discount our own wisdom and we,
we put it to the side and,
and,
and kind of tell ourselves that we,
we really don't know and that's just not true.
So we go and search for all of these things and then when we try them and it falls flat,
we decide,
well,
we must be the problem because I don't know.
Yeah,
this influencer tried this and it worked great and I tried it and it fell flat.
And so it must be a me problem and that feels terrible.
So that is one of the things that I'm seeing over and over is just this,
this statement of,
I don't know,
I don't know what to do.
This is unchartered territory and it may be,
it may be your first child coming home from a mission and becoming a young adult.
But that doesn't mean you don't know what to do.
So the first thing I have him do is start noticing.
It's that awareness.
Yeah.
Start noticing during the day over the course of a week.
How many times you tell yourself you don't know and just bring it to the surface,
bring that awareness there.
Yeah,
I love that.
Yeah.
And then ask yourself,
OK,
what do I know?
What do I know?
And that can change everything?
Yeah,
I do know that I love him.
I may not like him right now but I love him desperate.
I know that I know that I could get on the same parenting page with my husband because I know that he also wants the best thing for this child and our brain when directed that way,
we'll start finding all the things that we know and it,
it just,
it's a night and day difference in the way that Yeah,
I love that because I don't know,
just tells our brain to shut off.
It doesn't,
it doesn't move us forward,
right?
It's just like,
yeah,
I I often work um with my clients about their superpowers and they had two of their superpowers are feeling their emotions.
But the second superpower is curiosity when we can get curious solutions will come.
But as soon as we tell ourselves,
we don't know anything that just shuts off all curiosity,
all solutions,
all,
you know,
ideas.
And so I love that like,
you know,
what do you know?
That's a question instead of a statement that opens them up to just that curiosity?
Ok.
Well,
what is it that I know and then we can go find those things.
So I love that so much.
It really is,
is life changing because it,
it,
it directs your brain to finding those things.
And here's the,
here's the really the plain truth.
You are the best mom your child's ever going to have.
It's not your neighbor,
it's not your um your walking friend.
It's not the influencers that you follow.
Like you are your child's very best mom.
And so you've been given that child for a reason and,
and when we,
it is,
it's fascinating too.
And I,
and I love that,
that your community is faith filled women because when we say we don't know and we look around,
we are not looking to him who has the answers to everything,
right?
And so we need to ask ourselves,
OK,
what do I know?
And maybe what does God want me to know?
And you're connecting to someone who,
who has answers for you specifically?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we have the best story,
Jill,
we have the best example,
moms that did that.
Yes.
If you look in the,
in the scriptures in the book of Mormon specifically that we have a story about moms and boys and those moms that they knew,
they knew things and that's,
that's what the boys said,
right?
We if you haven't read this story in a while,
read this story because it is,
it is life changing as a mother.
And,
and when I first read it right now,
remember I have all sons and so this,
this story in particular means a lot to me and I studied it for years and years and years and um and it made me so mad when it was like,
well,
we we believe because our mother's new,
I'm like,
what,
what they know the world's worst cli or what did they know?
And so I really did make a,
it,
it has been a lifetime process to look and find,
OK,
what did they know?
What did they know?
Because what they knew those are the influencers that I wanna follow.
What did they know?
Because we know how they influenced those boys.
We know how valiant those boys were and they gave tribute and gave credit to what their mothers knew.
So a couple of things and,
and as a gift for your audience,
I have a list of 24 things that I found thus far.
It's an,
what do you love it that these mothers knew?
So that,
that is,
is my gift to you today,
but love it.
And a couple of specific things that,
that has been kind of life altering for me is that they didn't say their mothers told us that,
that our mom said these things our moms told us these things they said our mothers knew.
And I think that is an very important distinction to make because we can,
we can lecture and we can pound into these kids the things that we want them to know.
But that's not what those boys said,
made the difference,
their moms.
And so their moms being confident and being sure and living their best spiritual life was the greatest gift that they could give their son that just really has stuck out to me for years and years.
So when you think you don't know and ask yourself,
what do I know?
Really get that inner wisdom?
What do I know?
And who do I look to,
to find answers and,
and these women who I cannot wait to meet someday.
Yeah,
100%.
They knew things that influence those boys.
And so we want to look there when we're trying to figure out,
ok,
how do I raise these boys?
How do I work out this situation?
How can I best love here?
Yeah.
Recently I was doing a study um kind of on spiritual spiritual centeredness,
right?
And a lot of the premise is a lot of what we do is these thought patterns that we have,
right?
I don't know,
is a thought pattern that doesn't allow the spirit to confirm anything to us,
right?
And as part of this,
this curriculum,
the idea is that you find a um a thought pattern that you want to get a confirmation from like,
and I think this goes really well with what you're talking about is like,
find those things that,
you know,
and then ask in prayer for the witness to confirm your knowledge of it,
to solidify that belief.
Because I think when we invite the spirit in that just roots it even de deeper,
right?
And then we can live in a way that we know it.
Yes,
I it's more of like that confidence that surety that you referenced in the beginning is like,
and that's gonna have such a greater impact exactly like you said,
rather than we're trying to shove it down their throat.
No,
I have been confirmed by the spirit.
I know God has settled that in my heart.
This is what I know.
How do I live now?
How do I influence my family now that I realize how much I do know.
So I just think that's such a beautiful um addition to your awesome concept of what do you know?
OK.
What can the,
what can the spirit confirm even that,
you know?
Yeah.
Well,
and I love that because that's,
that's permanent,
that's lasting.
And wouldn't it be amazing?
Like if we could make our kids do things?
But darn that agency,
darn that agency like we want to and the way that we,
like you said,
the way we can best influence is to really center ourselves through the spirit on what we know and then live that and that becomes intriguing to other people,
especially our Children.
And,
and they may not see it immediately,
but this is a long game and they may in a,
in five years from now or 10 years from now,
one day wake up to.
Wow,
what is it That makes my mom so sure.
What is it that makes her live this life that makes her peaceful,
that makes her feel peace.
What is it?
And it'll be intriguing and,
and that's what we can do.
That's our biggest impact is living in a way that,
that draws people to us when we're shoving things down people's throats and telling them what to do and pulling agency away that repels people,
especially our Children and loving.
Mhm Yeah,
I love that.
You said that because that was what the image came to my mind as you were saying that it's like just that peace and surety is,
is like I'm even leaning in,
right?
Like yes,
like it feels so good.
And then when we,
I've seen my kids repel move away from me when I'm living in that en energy of unsurety of insecurity of fear,
of desperation,
of all those emotions that feed behavior that really does push them away and creates that disconnection between us.
So that's just gonna feed this idea that I don't know anything.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that causes fear when we think we don't know.
And we're supposed to be the ones that know and then we tell ourselves over and over again.
We don't,
that feeds this fear and fear.
We don't show up very well when we're feeling fearful.
I don't,
maybe other people do,
but I don't think I don't show up very well.
I show up graspy and,
and a little intrusive and,
and not fun.
We,
we should enjoy these relationships,
these relationships and I know some seasons are harder to enjoy,
especially if we have a child that is struggling,
but we want to at least enjoy and appreciate how we're showing up.
Yeah.
So,
so good.
So good.
Is there one another one that you'd like to share about,
about these moms?
You guys,
these moms are awesome.
They are awesome.
One of the things that,
that's on this list is,
um,
another one that's coming to mind immediately is that they,
they were part of a community and,
and I loved that,
that these,
these mothers,
they,
they didn't say my mother knew it.
They said our mothers knew it.
And I think that's so fascinating that they were,
they were part of a community.
And if you think about it,
these,
um,
these strip a warriors,
there are many of their fathers and grandfathers and maybe even older brothers were slaughtered.
If we remember the story years before the Lamanites came down and they knelt,
they knelt rather than fighting and so many were slaughtered.
So many of these mothers,
I'm,
I'm assuming.
But the,
I mean,
the story kind of unfolds in this way and the timing does is that a lot of them were single moms doing their best and they gathered a community and I love that.
And the other one that comes to mind that I love so much is that they kept their covenants.
These women,
they made covenants,
they made them and they kept them.
Yeah.
And I thought there's something with those covenants that connects us to the savior.
Our covenants connect us to the savior and then the savior is mighty to save.
And so we want to keep that connection.
So those mothers,
they made covenants and they kept those covenants.
I love that.
Yeah,
I love that.
I think of like even the,
the covenants connected them to go God and their community.
Yes.
Right.
Those covenants actually created the community as well.
And I've thought about that in my life and,
and tell me if this is the same for you.
Like I look around the women that,
that I'm surrounded by on a,
on a regular basis and they are so inspiring.
They're strong,
they're faithful,
doesn't mean they don't struggle.
Of course,
they,
everybody does,
everybody has hard things,
but I just look at how they navigate those hard things and they're inspiring to me,
which helps me want to be my best.
And I just think there is so much power in surrounding ourselves with other women that,
that have you that are there for you that lift you,
that inspire you,
that encourage you and,
and encourage our kids on like I think I just went to a missionary um opening of their call and the people that gathered around that c God,
I'm gonna cry,
gathered around that child as they opened their call.
And it was,
there was a lot of mothers in there.
There's a lot of mothers in there,
a lot of kids,
but a lot of mothers and I think that is evidence of,
of that point that you made like that community and covenant together.
Yeah.
Well,
and I love that you talk about that too,
Jill because we need that community in every season.
And I look at my daughters in law and there's they,
they need that surrounding of other covenant keeping women as they have these,
these babies and,
and have these small Children,
right?
And I need that community as I have a teenager.
And I look at my mom,
she surrounds herself with a community of,
of covenant keeping women and every season of life requires that community.
And,
and I love that,
I love that.
I think that's,
that's part of the gift that we're given is each other to,
to battle through.
And it doesn't,
it doesn't make everything better.
But wow,
it makes it so much easier when we know that,
you know,
our friend down the street is,
is thinking about us and praying for us when we're struggling and that,
that community is available.
Yeah.
Or that they've walked a similar path and they have a,
a,
they have a gift of perspective that we might not have because of where we are on that journey.
So,
yeah,
so beautiful,
so beautiful.
Um Is there anything else that you wanted to touch on in our conversation?
I think we've covered some really great things.
Well,
I,
well,
I was thinking as I was thinking about,
um,
about this conversation today,
I thought,
ok,
what could I give these wonderful people,
um,
as like practical ways to connect with their son at any age?
And so I came up with a few.
So if we have just a minute,
I'll,
I'll share a couple of.
Yes.
So especially as our kids get a little bit older and,
and I get it like I'm in that transition to of between boyhood and manhood.
And um it is a little tricky like it,
it is a little tricky because it's time for us to back off even more and allow them to,
um,
to,
to live their best life.
And so here's a couple of practical tips.
Um,
some may resonate,
some may,
may be discarded,
but one of them is I have,
have kind of gotten into the habit of I,
I'll ask them permission if I want to give advice.
So if they're telling me something,
I'll say,
hey,
but do you want my advice?
And sometimes they'll say yes.
And once in a while they'll say no.
And I respect that.
But I,
I don't wanna just throw it out there.
I,
because I don't want,
I want them to gain the confidence of making their own decisions.
And so that's one thing that I've really tried and I'm,
I'm pretty good at is h do you,
do you want my advice here or do you just wanna talk?
And they'll tell me if they,
if they want one of those.
So that's one thing,
another thing is,
um I extend invitations without expectations.
So I,
I kind of have taken this role on as the gatherer.
We want,
we want our kids to come home we want with.
And when I say our kids,
I'm including now,
I have four daughters in law and a granddaughter and like we want them to be together.
We want,
they need talking about community,
right?
They're gonna need each other.
And so I,
I create opportunities together and I extend the invitation,
but I don't make it pressure filled.
Like,
hey,
we are doing this and um we'd love for you to come and if you can't,
we totally understand because when they feel that pressure,
that talk about repelling,
right?
When there's pressure there.
So extending the invitations without the expectations.
Um Another one is allowing them to make decisions and this is so hard sometimes,
but it goes back to that agency to turn that agency.
It must be better than we think because we fought a war over it.
But um allowing them to make decisions is really,
this is a long game and we may be standing back seeing consequences to their decisions,
but until they experience that they're not going to learn it and we want to keep the relationship.
So you want whatever you do,
keep that relationship.
Um Another one is,
there are some things I've just decided ahead of time.
I'm gonna adore whoever my son brings home to Mary.
I'm just gonna adore her.
I'm not gonna look for faults in her like I decided that years ago.
And it's interesting one of my sons when he was getting serious with his,
his wife now,
but his girlfriend at the time,
he says,
mom,
what do you think?
And I said I am gonna love you,
bring her.
I think she is awesome.
I think she's amazing.
And I just want you to know I'm gonna just adore her,
whoever it is.
I'm gonna adore her and love her.
So some things like I'm just gonna decide ahead of time and that's really helpful to my brain because then I'm not looking for what they're lacking,
but I'm just looking for ways to love.
So,
yeah,
whatever profession they choose.
I'm just going to think it's great.
You got this buddy,
you know,
and,
and who you bring home for her to be my daughter.
Like I'm going to love her and she's going to be amazing and she's going to be so dear to me.
And then,
um,
the last one that's,
that's kind of hard for us.
Moms is just accepting,
it's just not about us anymore.
They so good boys,
they still need you,
they still need you.
They still need to know that you love them.
They,
I don't think boys ever outgrow the need for acceptance from their mom.
I just don't and,
and the need to not disappoint their mom.
Yeah,
you don't want to disappoint their mom and so just expressing that love and making them feel that love is going to keep that relationship.
Those are just some practical,
I love that.
Those are five practical tips that I think are so good.
And the thing I was thinking as you were sharing these,
they're all about ourselves,
like how to manage ourselves,
right?
And there are things we can do right now.
We don't,
we can begin practicing one of these things today.
We don't necessarily do all of them,
but like I won try just inviting without expectation and see what happens,
right?
And then try another one and then try another one and just see,
and I think that I have found as I've implemented each of those that you've suggested um myself,
I have like it,
it builds momentum to show up even better,
right?
Like at the end,
like as you begin practicing each of those things,
it's almost becomes part of who you are to show up that way.
You've,
you've built that skill or that talent if you will to,
to really show up in love and support and all of that.
So I love all five of those.
So what was the first one?
The first one was so asking permission to give,
ask permission,
invitations without expectations?
Ok.
Allow them to make decisions um and decide ahead of time,
make some decisions how you,
you'll show up ahead of time and then accept that it's just not about you anymore.
So pick one,
I love that don't get overwhelmed and be like now I'm a failure.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no.
Remember we what we know we can implement one,
just one of those and then tap into your superpower of curiosity and go hm What did I learn by trying this?
How could I have done better?
What would I have liked to have done different and then move on,
right.
But just learn from trying instead of resigning to nothing.
Yeah,
absolutely good.
So good Heidi.
Thank you so much for coming on today.
Such good information.
And I really think that the women that follow this are they will benefit so much by what you do So,
so thank you for having me and thank you for creating this,
this place together.
It's the best.
I love it.
I love it.
Um So tell people where they can find you and the link in the show notes to all of that and the,
and the freebie of the,
the strip Le Warriors Mothers like we all want that.
Yeah.
Oh Yeah,
tell us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
I am super easy to find.
I have a website.
It's Heidi All Stop coaching.com and my last name has two L's.
Um And then you can find me on Instagram at Heidi Allsop coaching.
I'm on Facebook and then also I'll send out the um the 24 things that the Stripling Warriors Mothers knew and every Monday I send out a Monday mom tip with just a little tip and trick on how to keep that relationship with,
with your son and really have fun with him.
Boys are so fun.
Yeah,
it's hard to have fun when we're worried and afraid and insecure.
We really,
it,
we and we are no fun.
No one wants to be around us either.
That's what I decided.
It's like,
it's so true.
I need to be the fun.
I want to be the fun.
Let's have fun.
So true.
Way more fun.
I agree.
Awesome.
Thank you so much,
Heidi.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
